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1 wont start on 3rd August 2014, 7:07 pm

johnny gtir

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Well if I am honest disappointed in my self been here but no one knows everthing.

White car wont start been sat a good while  tried plugs leads maf coil
spark present
fuel present

long story short removed power fc. sard injectors and z32  adjustable fpr honestly don't think this is related.  
don't think its stale fuel
aint had much time to work on it

2 things its showing code 34 det sensor now that was never fitted as not needed with power fc it picks knock up different and flashes light on speedo
I have now fitted it but did try and start car on standard ecu without it (how long should it hold code ? do i power ecu down for 24 hours)
any help please

2 Re: wont start on 3rd August 2014, 8:06 pm

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If you have fuel and a spark then it's a mechanical problem with the car not firing at the correct moment
So my first port of call and suspect would be to check that the rotor arm hasn't spun with the screw coming out

Forget the code 34 that won't stop her from firing


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3 Re: wont start on 3rd August 2014, 8:14 pm

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thought that mate about the det. tried cleaning the cap etc but will check that thankyou

could not settle good job I aint got a garage would be on all night all ok with rotar

4 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 12:17 am

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Could be your foofoo valve or flux capasiter?

5 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 7:28 am

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So its turning over ok .... have you physicaly checked for spark ..and fuel johnny ???


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6 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:11 am

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All 4 sparking on rocker cover
Fuel fills bottle when priming pressure present on rail ie pull pipe off and get sqwirted with back pressure

Any problems with fpr or out ? Took plugs out (new plugs but did not seem to have much fuel on for amout of cranking) tried good workin inj res pack
Can i put injectors into bottles and see injectors sqwirt ?

Gaz never thought of that what do i do there if in doubt giv it a clout lol

7 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:22 am

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Do you have the fuel rail hoses on the right way?

8 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:44 am

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yeah top of filter is inlet
return is to part with fpr on

if the rotor hasn't spun and above lines are correct then its either crap stagnated fuel or an engine timing issue
try heating the plugs up so there really hot then quickly put them in the wells and stick the leads on, that often helps kick it into life assuming everything is mechanically correct or squirt a bit of easy start through the filter which will aid it if it wants to fire up then but runs crap could well be stagnated fuel


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9 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 12:18 pm

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Might check the injectors wires. Checked the earths surly if any had snaped it would run on 3 but still start. Will try bit easy start incase its stale fuel. Tried heating both old and new plugs mate thanks.

Will be heating the whole car with new petrol n a match lol
Will update tonight when i finish work and try somemore stuff

10 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 6:30 pm

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I would try abit of easy start johnny that will help rule out shit fuel ...


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11 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 7:04 pm

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you have checked your battery has enough charge

12 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 9:31 pm

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sorted anybody want one faulty injector I threw the fooking thing so will be in the estate somewhere in someones garden did not hear any glass smash. one injector seemed to stop fuel on two. need to make a jig to hold them to test in future. had voltge at all. abit easy start ruled out spark then went from ther

13 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 9:31 pm

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Have you tried to bump start it??

14 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 9:32 pm

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Happy dazzzz mate

15 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 9:41 pm

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thought it would of atleast tried to fire even if it ran like a bag of shite ...


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16 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 9:44 pm

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Should of got one of these mate http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201142084781&alt=web


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17 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 9:45 pm

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takes a lot to beat me with these now but thought it was going to get me. cables etc have been checked and tested to confirm it was deffo the injector itself also fitted it to my other R before I threw it same fault. felt good throwing it. might get dash in for rally day mate list is never ending lol. hows things ?

18 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 9:48 pm

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@nomad wrote: thought it would of atleast tried to fire even if it ran like a bag of shite ...
yep one seemed to fuck the other up maybe the pulse or something. don't think it was this set but got a set cleaned and flow sheet mate

19 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:00 pm

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So are you knocking it back to standard or just put it that way to test everything ???


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20 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:08 pm

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just sick of it sitting doing nowt mate like to keep it started oftern. power fc was mapped for bigger injectors n z32 and 2860 which I blew. I know you can stick power fc to base map but for sake of just putting standard in means I can drive the car just to keep things freed up etc. soon as black cars mapped starting on white car top mount turbo new ic and around 450 bhp I hope

21 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:22 pm

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shove me on your insurance ill drive it around for you

22 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:26 pm

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Glad you got it sorted Johnny
As said on phone today it was the only way to go to check the injectors were fuelling by removing them to see
Nothing else it could really have been if all mechanical items were deffo ok


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23 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:41 pm

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I could not remove them to see fuel as wen rail was out i had no way of stopping them coming off the rail so will make jig/clamp for future fault finding lol. pressure would push them off. Changed them one by one as 2 plugs were alot less fueled up. Strange one but all sorted atlease

24 Re: wont start on 4th August 2014, 10:42 pm

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BIG thanks to you all and cheers bob for the call.

25 Re: wont start on 5th August 2014, 1:04 am

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Amaizing how things fail when they have been stood & not used... I had it with a set of plugs... Put the car away & everything was fine & running sweet. Come to it a week later & it was firing on 3  Rolling Eyes 

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