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Lower front bar/tube - Needed?

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1 Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 5:01 pm

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I have been searching for one of these for a while as a part of my rebuild from shell up.



But I've heard from a few people now who run bigger rads and coolers etc is that it's not really even needed? I know it has a very small little engine stabiliser mount on it but I imagine with some good condition engine mounts it barely does anything...

Just asking advise on whether I can just forget it really and not bother as I honestly don't think it's needed.

Thanks guys

2 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 5:48 pm

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I woukd Also like to know.
Mine has been cut in half..


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3 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 7:09 pm

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I find they are a good jacking point if nothing else Very Happy


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4 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 7:30 pm

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^^^ that's what I always jack mine up at the front on lol


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5 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 8:22 pm

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I would think it helps strengthen up the front end also aswell as being a jacking point if only everyone else took that view saving all those crushed sills and bashed box sections ...


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6 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 8:55 pm

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I prefer using one but as above many people get by without running it Smile

7 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 8:59 pm

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I've just realised that is a bar from a normal sunny, thought it looked different to mine Rolling Eyes


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8 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 9:06 pm

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That bar is the BEST jacking point at the front and as said, saves the sills and rail's from getting crushed.

9 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 29th December 2015, 10:53 pm

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Definitely best place for getting the front jacked up.
Also people spend a lot of money on upper and lower strut braces to stiffen up the front so I can't think why you'd consider leaving this bar off when it's probably there to stiffen up the front, as well as support the engine ...

10 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 30th December 2015, 8:35 am

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I have ran with and without not noticed the difference but I prefer to run with. Jacking point is a bonus but more important as mentioned it braces the front end up. Now on a standard car drove on the roads probably won't matter as these cars were built to rally so certain areas over engineered for a road car but up the power or as parts wear over the years  and driving the car hard considering that so much weight is up front on these cars I would run it a 100% also as mentioned a lot of people's cars I see the mounts worn so the stabiliser is working hard to absorb movement back and forth. Running without gives movement and I am 90% sure it contributed to gear box failure on a car I was fixing. The forge front mount pipe is awkward so I cut a section out the bar turned the cut section upside down and got it welded back in so no loss of strength. Also as said the stabiliser will help stop a turbo or bigger turbo hitting the rad or uprated rad as it moves under acceleration or braking conditions

11 Re: Lower front bar/tube - Needed? on 30th December 2015, 7:52 pm

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I'd keep it for strength as these are big old engines and anything to support and tighten the front end is a good thing. I didn't think about jacking on it but i sometimes jack up the front behind the front sill with wood.

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