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Rear sub frame removal

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1 Rear sub frame removal on 29th January 2016, 9:54 pm

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Been thinking of taking my rear subframe off and getting it blasted and coated to neaten things up but was just wondering if it's a big job? I'd be doing it in my garage on the floor and I have all the tools inc air tools so how long do you think realistically to take it off on my own?

2 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 29th January 2016, 10:04 pm

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Ross (wrc) has just done his so maybe ask him Smile
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3 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 29th January 2016, 10:09 pm

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Well ive done one and didnt take to long i would say a couple of hours roughly  .... undo hub nuts crack wheel nuts off  slightly both sides .... jack up rear end make sure its high enough to drop subframe and whatever you use to pull it out with wether its jacks or bread basket or similar  axle stands both sides just before subframe starts  take wheels off .... undo shocks  (two bolts at the bottom )    undo handbrake cables take calipers  off hang them off the shock springs with cable ties or string .... undo sensors plugs they are clipped to subframe ....  slide underneath  undo prop shaft  bolts ....  then its ready  to drop .... the only thing i would add is  you may want to do the bastard bolt either side before you drop it down ....



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4 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 29th January 2016, 10:15 pm

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Yup it isn't that hard. I did it by myself in my garage.

5 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 29th January 2016, 10:29 pm

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The hardest thing about it is its bulky and heavy ....


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6 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 29th January 2016, 11:42 pm

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Fairly easy , Undo prop . Undo suspension at bottom shocker bolts , Undo rear brakes and zip tie to the shockers . , Undo arb from shocks , Big jack under diff .. Undo 4 big nuts and lower the subframe ..
Think that's it .. not that hard though

7 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 12:20 am

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Dont forget the sensors as your rip them off...


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8 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 8:27 am

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The rear subframe removal is actually easier than you think, its just basic nuts and bolts and not too many of them either really. The only slight hardship is breaking it away from the body, as remember its been there for nearly 25 years lol

The MAIN trouble is what you do with it when its off... tidying it up is one thing, but once you get there and you find your subframe bushes perished... might aswell change them.... then suspension arm bushes... diff needs to come out... might aswell tidy that up... so then you might aswell fit all 4 new cv boots.....

I was going to tidy my rear end up etc as it too was tired after 25 years, then this happened... lol





9 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 8:48 am

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^ that looks super fresh Laughing

10 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 8:50 am

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like wrc says getting it off is easy & quite quick but tidying it all up is the bigger job.
Ideally I would do all the bushes & cv boots if look poor.
If planning on full tidy up then like nomad said it would be best do the bastard lateral link hub long bolts first as if these well seized they take some shifting & you may find it easier do while still attached to car.

11 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 9:19 am

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Id actually say its easier to remove the long hub bolts once the sub frame is removed as you have more room to hit the bastards etc. I preferred attaching the hubs once the subframe was reinstalled. Made it a little easier with less weight.

12 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 9:26 am

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Strangely the big link bolt in each hub on mine came out much easier than I was expecting. I sprayed them with penetrant a couple times before we went for it. We undid mine on the floor with a gun.

You just need to decide how far you want to go really mate, this is a long term project for me so I went the whole way. Feels good afterwards though! Very laborious.

13 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 9:34 am

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Be careful of the nuts as couple are captive into subframe snap these and your going to struggle ( sure it's diff ones from memory. Stuff like sensor brackets are small bolts tend to snap

14 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 6:07 pm

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Ross would you be able to put together a list of the rear bushes needed and a price for the lot that you got from nothalane ... as i would like to do mine but dont really want to spend silly money as i cant really afford to as its a job i need to be doing shortly ....


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15 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 6:23 pm

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Its £163 for super pro bushes minus subframe bushes if there the same and cheaper then thats good.

Also if you want standard bushes then i think these fit the lateral arms and the one in the rear hub

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/121766632259?ssPageName=STRK:MESINDXX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1436.l2648

55152-51E00

16 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 7:07 pm

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Hawkings did you ever use those little subframe bottom cup things you ordered by accident? Might have em if not.

Leighton I'll chuck you a message over tomorrow with all the descriptions and kit numbers and explain it all for you mate. If I haven't messaged you by the afternoon send me a message cause I'm forgetful as fook Very Happy

17 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 7:22 pm

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Nope don't need to use them but i have 3, the other is at my former work place which nissan delivered it to. I wasn't going to bother getting it as i don't really want to set foot in that dump again.

18 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 7:26 pm

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How generous are you feeling tonight? Laughing Laughing Laughing haha

19 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 7:50 pm

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Ill think about it hmmm. Why don't you paint yours up?

20 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 9:18 pm

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Yeah no worries that would be helpfull mate .... cheers


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21 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 30th January 2016, 9:29 pm

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Stick it on this thread mate when you get it please

22 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 1st February 2016, 8:10 am

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It's not too bad. That bastard bold either side is the pita though. I accidently cut through my hub with the grinder & had bob send me out two new ones  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing  Laughing   Cool

Here's mine 3 days after being blasted:

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23 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 1st February 2016, 8:57 am

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Is it best to get it blasted and then powder coated with the old bushes still in. ?
Then press them out afterwards

24 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 1st February 2016, 10:50 am

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I left mine in for the whole process then popped them out afterwards, just put a lick of rust treatment in the hole prior to fitting.

but tbh, doesn't really matter. You'd just need to do more sanding as the paint on the frame needs to be thick to last. I just slung my old bolts in the holes & threw them in the bin afterwards.

Also worthwhile investing in a tap & die set and a set of half moon files for when the bolts don't fit back in the holes.

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25 Re: Rear sub frame removal on 1st February 2016, 11:35 am

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