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26 Re: Clutch pedal on 20th November 2016, 9:22 am

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Very likely will woody, the piston assembly at top of pic like ours although they seem list generic image in all thier seal kits.
I would strip yours and see bore condition etc and if want try that kit call them and confirm kit is like piston part in top of pic or see if crosses to nissan 3061102Y25 or 3061152F25
Looks like will be 5/8 25.9 bore size kit .
Most kits fits internally but rear rod boot lengths differ if included

Seal kits I know do fit are >
Nissan 3061102Y25
ABS 73070
Frenkit 415026
Autofren D1390 (ebay link > http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AUTOFREN-SEINSA-D1390-REPARATURSATZ-KUPPLUNGSGEBERZYLINDER-/291873220553 )



Clutch master complete assembly part numbers below (any that cross to these numbers should be good too) >
Nissan 3061054C10
Delphi LM62092
TRW PNB535
Girling 1202535
Blueprint ADN13439


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PDF on clutch master & slave service parts >
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7Ub2apq5-pfMEZxanNXQm5KdHM/view?usp=sharing



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27 Re: Clutch pedal on 20th November 2016, 9:01 pm

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Is it worth messing about master cylinder at icp are 29quid ..... wich i dont think thats bad really ???


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28 Re: Clutch pedal on 20th November 2016, 9:28 pm

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How come they are so cheap on icp?

29 Re: Clutch pedal on 20th November 2016, 10:08 pm

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http://www.importcarparts.co.uk/parts?cat=87&sub=119&sec=1184


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30 Re: Clutch pedal on 20th November 2016, 10:11 pm

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Most of the parts on there are woody .... ive used quite a few of there parts and not had any issues so far .... i will use them for my fn2 type r aswell as parts for that are ridiculous yet icp seem reasonable especially compared to anywhere else including ebay ....


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31 Re: Clutch pedal on 20th November 2016, 10:59 pm

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Prices are so cheap. I don't know why they dont post to Australia, New Zealand yes and Aus is just over the pond.

32 Re: Clutch pedal on 21st November 2016, 6:47 am

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Yeh £29 is nice price for full master, seals are about £8 so really depends on what available locally condition of old cylinder and how much you want spend .
refurbing with seals is real easy compared to brake cylinders and has better results, i've done them both ways and added cylinder part numbers just in case as if real nice price makes sense, didn't see any listed on oz ebay though so you going need call autofactors probably .

33 Re: Clutch pedal on 21st November 2016, 7:56 am

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Master from Nissan is like $170 I think when I looked it up yesterday. What's the chances the cylinder is no good? Might be easier just to get a brand new of both and save the trouble.

I really wish I figured this out before putting the whole intake manifold etc back on lol

If I buy a master and slave, get it posted over there, could someone forward it onto Aus for me? I'll throw you abit extra for your troubles Smile

34 Re: Clutch pedal on 21st November 2016, 8:42 am

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50/50 on how good cylinder bores are, normally can get away with seal kit if had too, I done one on track day in emergency.
Both slave and master will be available pattern part on oz as used on load of cars .
UK prices are pretty good though and shipping reliable .

35 Re: Clutch pedal on 21st November 2016, 8:57 am

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Heres a clutch master with free shipping to oz .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAPANPARTS-Clutch-Master-Cylinder-FR-158-/262349069855

And here's the slave with free shipping to oz .
http://www.ebay.com/itm/JAPANPARTS-Clutch-Slave-Cylinder-CY-166-/252330477255

Both from same seller (micksgarage_australia) so if add to cart should come as one package .

Prices are pretty good, would have add ICP shipping uk and uk to oz if went that root plus with ebay easy get money back if don't turn up or got issue ...

36 Re: Clutch pedal on 21st November 2016, 8:55 pm

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That's awesome mate, good find! I'll get these. Rep given thumbsup

Save $15 when buying 2 items aswell, ends up being $77.51 delivered, soooo good

37 Re: Clutch pedal on 21st November 2016, 11:00 pm

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I was going to say if you was stuck i would of posted them for you mate ...


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38 Re: Clutch pedal on 21st November 2016, 11:31 pm

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Thanks mate, appreciate the offer, I'll go with the ones B posted and see what they are like.

39 Re: Clutch pedal on 22nd November 2016, 6:27 am

Mr B

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If as listed and delivered okay will work out fair price as with that $15 off for 2 items works out same or little cheaper than ICP .
UK is surprisingly good on available parts with more brand choice and better prices generally for all round ease of service ...

40 Re: Clutch pedal on 22nd November 2016, 8:06 am

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I think they should be ok, wait and see. Thought better to replace both now and be done with it. Pain since I now have to remove a lot of stuff I've only just assembled, my mates wonder why it takes me so long to build a car lol

41 Re: Clutch pedal on 22nd November 2016, 9:10 am

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I think because you working on the garage fridge door most of the time hahaha .
master not as bad as looks, if remove fork off master the reduced length makes it easier work out the space, you can disconnect front engine mount so tilt engine forward (pending on what space your build got) which releases some space and can just remove top of plenum but that not a must, it fiddly but more doable than looks.
I've had odd japanpart bits and been fine so hopefully theses will be. worth pulling old master apart and if bore decent bag it as potential serviceable spare . seal kits are good when find them for about $12AUD or less, can be as cheap as $6 but more so in europe or usa .

42 Re: Clutch pedal on 25th November 2016, 12:41 pm

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That fridge in the garage is what keeps me movitaed, might have to replace the hinges shortly, they are getting worn out Laughing removed the master and slave this afternoon, removed the inlet manifold, only took about an hour so not really that hard at all.

43 Re: Clutch pedal on 25th November 2016, 1:04 pm

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If you got any time after upgrading your fridge door hinges
pull master apart and see state of seals and bore just for interst, could you see fluid seepage around fork rod shaft boot .
I have a lot of iced green tea when in garage, have a small drinks stall just up road so handy, anything stronger would leave me as good as disabled lol .

44 Re: Clutch pedal on 25th November 2016, 1:47 pm

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I didn't see any fluid but didn't have a close look, will check it out in the morning and see how it looks. I was thinking after I replace the clutch cylinders the only thing left on the whole car that I haven't rebuilt is the steering rack, thinking I should do it now.

45 Re: Clutch pedal on 7th December 2016, 8:30 am

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Arrived today, quality looks good, another piece to the never ending puzzle Laughing Thanks for the help B thumbsup now to fix that fridge door......

46 Re: Clutch pedal on 7th December 2016, 10:41 am

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should be okay, I had some japanparts before and while not always up there with BluePrint, SolidAce, TRW, Delphi etc they still been good quality and sensible pricing on some parts.
get the tools out and get that fridge door fixed before playing with the R :-D

47 Re: Clutch pedal on 9th December 2016, 4:47 am

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Something interesting I found this afternoon is the back side of the slave is different which fouls my clutch line fitting (I have a braided line). Will need some grinding Laughing

48 Re: Clutch pedal on 9th December 2016, 9:39 am

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do you like grinding bounce
lest easy resolved. you fitting these today ?
Hope fridge door good and your beer cold lol ...

49 Re: Clutch pedal on 9th December 2016, 10:49 am

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who doesn't love abit of grinding B Laughing

Yeah fitted this arvo, haven't bled it yet.

Master seemed like it was on its way out, but it was the slave that was seized.

50 Re: Clutch pedal on 9th December 2016, 11:58 am

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My wife doesn't like it Shocked especially in the bedroom !  scratch  Crying or Very sad
Sounds like worthwhile you did get slave as turned out bit different than expected.
To be fair none of it going be great at 21 to 26 years of age and best all done together as most of us are using heavier clutches that working them harder plus all new less reliability hassle down the road, one of these failing on the road or track day can end up in recovery if unlucky .
Job almost jobbed hopefully .

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