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Help with sr20det or sr20de

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1 Help with sr20det or sr20de on 25th July 2017, 3:36 pm

Telly


Hi guys sorry to be a pain.

So my engine is completely gone and i need a new engine. I have found one on the internet but the person selling doesnt know if its a det or de. All he said is it has come out of a pulsar a few years ago. Could some one please help and adv if this is the engine i need as i know there are many different sr20 out there.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/MEBnhISEem2k6eIl1

Thank you guys

2 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 25th July 2017, 5:13 pm

shroom

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Yep thats a Pulsar engine. Will it be any good though is another question

3 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 25th July 2017, 5:19 pm

Telly


Ahh just to check is it turbo or non?? Also how do i check or what checks do i do to confirm if engine is ok?

4 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 25th July 2017, 7:47 pm

johnny gtir

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Check the bores and crank. How long has it sat ? What you doing rebuilding it or ?

5 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 25th July 2017, 8:38 pm

Telly


Well inwamted to rebuild my engine as i have stripped most of it but found this engine it has been sat i believe 6 years? The barcode is sr20 54c it also has a code of sr20 SR20 186892A. He doesnt know much about engines at all and tbh i dont either i was hoping it was just and straight swap

6 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 25th July 2017, 9:55 pm

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What price is he asking ? Just be careful 6 year is a long time and is he saying he dose not know as a excuse why did it get removed etc is it forged or standard lots to think about sitting six years seals etc need to be considered

7 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 25th July 2017, 10:39 pm

Mr B

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No way that engine be straight swap, it no virgin looking at amount bolts thrown about and red sealant. always best working with what you already got unless conrod sticking out the block ....
it hasn't been sat for 6yrs in less than ideal conditions by looks of it because it a sweet runner.
be careful ...

8 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 26th July 2017, 9:46 am

Telly


Whats the best way to check if it is all ok? I mean lets say i buy it then what am i looking at to get it to run?

What is best checks for me to do as im thinking to go view it this weekend

9 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 26th July 2017, 10:03 am

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See if you can turn it over by hand (with a spanner) first I would say. While turning it over listen for any grinding noises inside (rust or damage) and also listen for each cylinder compressing; you should also feel this. IF it turns over without any nasty noises maybe take the cam cover off for a look underneath. Check to see if there's oil in the sump and if there is, does it look and smell ok?
If you've got access to a borescope then I would definitely take that with you. Failing that (and assuming it turns over by hand ok) take a plug(s) out and have a look inside to see if there's any damage or rust etc.
The engine may very well be worth a punt at the right price and may be very solid but, it could also be a rusty piece of cr@p that's only use is as an anchor.
At the very least you're going to have to replace the hoses at the back of the engine as they look past it. While you're there replace the knock sensor & engine temperature sensor too as they're a bitch to do once engine's in.
That flywheel could definitely do with being replaced or a good clean and a skim too...

Doesn't Bob have any decent standard engines kicking about? He might be more expensive but at least you'd know you're getting something that works properly...

10 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 26th July 2017, 10:42 am

Telly


Thank you guys, tbh im sure i can get it cheap of him im hoping so anyway. Id rather keep mine to work on it myself at a later stage as i dont have much time to do it.

11 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 26th July 2017, 10:45 am

Telly


Ohh also is it safe to turn the engine if there is no oil ??

12 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 26th July 2017, 11:02 am

mike74

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there will still be some oil inside the bearings etc inside the engine so turning it over by hand would be ok AFAIK. I wouldn't spin it on the starter with no oil in it though. You could always take a 1L bottle of cheap stuff to throw in before testing it?

13 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 26th July 2017, 6:41 pm

johnny gtir

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What's he told you about the engine ? Is it a member former member? All things like this can help

14 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 28th July 2017, 10:37 am

Telly


No and thats what is worrying is that he doesnt know much about engines and nor do i. He said he bought it years ago with his friend but his friend sold the car and its been sitting there. Now he just wants to get rid of the engine. He has done all the checks i have asked him and tbh when speaking to him on the phone he does seem genuine but they all do

15 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 28th July 2017, 10:53 am

mike74

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Where about is the engine located? You might be lucky and get someone from here to go have a look with you?

16 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 29th July 2017, 6:58 pm

GTI-R US

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Remove the exhaust manifold and check in the exhaust ports on the head
If you see any which are wet looking (oily) then you can bet that its seen better days and is burning oil.
If its been sitting for 6 years youll need to pull it apart anyway as the compression rings will be stuck and unlikely they will free off so it will smoke like a chimney.

I would also completely remove the sump to check bearings and obvious marks on the crank.

But if its cheap say around £250-300 then would just buy it anyway (you cant lose) as its unlikely that every bit of it is fooked


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17 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 31st July 2017, 9:41 am

Telly


Hi guys thnx for the help.

I did buy the engine in the end. There was no funny noises or any rust just some dirt inside so i thought wht the hell might aswell just give it a go. Even if it doesnt work im sure i can use something off it. Does any 1 know a decent pulsar mechanic i can take it too in the west midlands area.

18 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 31st July 2017, 9:44 am

Telly


Thanx bob i got it for 200 in the end. So thought why not. Sorry mike i saw the message too late it was in chester. Bought it last night.

19 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 31st July 2017, 2:42 pm

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@Telly wrote:Thanx bob i got it for 200 in the end. So thought why not. Sorry mike i saw the message too late it was in chester. Bought it last night.

Bargain its worth that just for the head and associated parts thumbsup


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20 Re: Help with sr20det or sr20de on 31st July 2017, 10:46 pm

Telly


Any recommendations on who to take the engine to in west midlands bob?

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