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1 Moog ball joints on 16th March 2018, 7:58 pm

mike74

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Ok just measured one of the new joints and its at 39.2mm!?
Is that right, thought they were meant to be 38mm?
Theyre moog k9633's and part numbers on box (40160- 50y00) check out ok.
Will these fit or will i need to get creative or even change them?

Cheers for now,

Mike

2 Re: Moog ball joints on 16th March 2018, 10:40 pm

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https://m.motor-doctor.co.uk/ball-joint/nissan/sunny/pulsar-v-hatchback-n14/4517-2-0-gti-r-4x4


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3 Re: Moog ball joints on 16th March 2018, 11:17 pm

mike74

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Yeah ive got the moog one off that link mate. Think im going to have to physically check the morn, come hail or shine!

4 Re: Moog ball joints on 16th March 2018, 11:44 pm

splmum

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Several of the makers mention "Outer diameter [mm]: 39". So I would guess that your 39.2 might be closer than your 38mm.

5 Re: Moog ball joints on 17th March 2018, 5:57 am

Mr B

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I remember it as 38.2mm but could vary pending on if you got oem rnn14 arms or been replaced for n14 arms . Choice will be 38.2 or 39.2, some manufacture bj's could be 0.1mm variation on that .
Measure old bj's and arm bore, if wishbone hole small bit of cleaning with die grinder and a 39.2 would fit .

6 Re: Moog ball joints on 17th March 2018, 7:48 am

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I was just about to say the same powder coated arms or arms that’s been on years run bit sand paper dermal or as b says die grinder

7 Re: Moog ball joints on 17th March 2018, 4:13 pm

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That's why I posted the link as it has quite a few variants with diameters listed .... thought it would be usefully with cross reference ...


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8 Re: Moog ball joints on 17th March 2018, 5:23 pm

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Ok the originals were 38mm, bah!
After fighting to get the joint split initially i introduced the arm to mr dremel and opened up the bore to circa 38.7mm. A fair bit of jiggling sockets around in the vise and its in!
Nice snug fit too Smile
Ill finish cleaning the arm up, give it a lick of paint then thats one side done.
Not an entirely pleasant experience but at least its done and i now know whats in there. Was fooking snowing at times too Sad
Cheers for all the info guys, much appreciated as always Very Happy

9 Re: Moog ball joints on 17th March 2018, 10:14 pm

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Least you got it to fit ... better to be a real snug fit than rattling around in there .....


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10 Re: Moog ball joints on 18th March 2018, 12:10 am

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Don't know if you guys can get these in the UK, but I just remembered I have a set sitting in my spares box, measured them 38mm.
TRW - JBJ182
538553 / 278
3 322937 897063 (Bar code)
Hope this helps.

11 Re: Moog ball joints on 18th March 2018, 6:39 am

Mr B

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Trouble is some 38mm joints can be bit loose fit in a well used old arm bore .
Ideally want 38.2+ joint for good interference fit .
trw jbj182 would be same as adn18631 or delphi tc600 .
Least with the bigger moog you can set you interference in the arm plus it a nice quality and greasable joint .
Working in cold and snow would be a no for me :-S

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