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1 Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 12:40 pm

Daveymeladdy

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Ok... so my car is a genuine air bag model. It has “SRS Airbag” stickers under the bonnet and in the drivers cab.
Before I got the car it had the steering wheel with the air bag removed and also the clocks which had the air bag light. As the pulsar didn’t have it as standard (optional extra) most MOT places don’t know to check that the air bag is functional.

I have managed to retro fit an air bag warning light into the dash as (personal choice) I want it to be there. I have wired it so that it goes out when the engine starts along with the battery light.
I didn’t think about this before, but My problem now is that it will alert the MOT tester to the fact it should have an air bag, but it has a phase 1 wheel and no air bag. If it’s been removed, is that not an instant fail?

2 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 1:41 pm

astarozna

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Can't you just remove a bulb from a cluster for m.o.t and then re fit it later?

3 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 2:09 pm

Daveymeladdy

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That’s kind of what I was thinking I’ll have to do. I can change the lights so there is no air bag light there, my main worry is that if I have a car accident, and they send out a surveyor, will he look to see if it has been tampered with?

4 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 3:35 pm

Mr B

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If srs light functions normally you may get away with it if tester not too thorough at looking at steering wheel or not wanting hassle as it's grey import and unclear if was factory installed .
Best thing would of been total removal of everything airbag related.
Do like your commitment to wanting keep it but it could be ballache if MOT guy wants make a deal of it and once fault logged in computer you f00ked as not like good old days of hiding it further and test it elsewhere .
Have a word with gostek as he a UK mot tester although so much comes down to individual guy on this sort of thing .
MOT manual revisions come in late next month so worth seeing if anything in that relates to srs .

5 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 3:45 pm

Daveymeladdy

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I was under the impression that cars over a certain age didn’t matter if airbag worked or not. I retro-fitted the air bag light back into the dash and then realised I may have caused myself a problem. I may just put the old set of lights back in each year. I get it MOT’d with Bob and not had an issue so far as most don’t know it’s meant to have an air bag.

6 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 3:47 pm

Daveymeladdy

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I’ve also noticed that my horn doesn’t work! There is meant to be a contact behind the steering wheel but my car doesn’t have one, can anyone see from this pic what is missing and poeticise a photo of what it should look like? I will then need the part if anyone has it on something they are breaking?

7 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 4:19 pm

johnny gtir

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Could fit a horn on a button if you get stuck airbag light looks good mate what did you use ?

8 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 4:43 pm

astarozna

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Doesn't the VIN say what extras you have or not or did that came later?

9 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 4:54 pm

Mr B

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Yeh airbag was originally only issue on late 90's but I see no age restriction in current rules so assume they removed that and can effect all .
A sensible or friendly MOT guy not going cause much issue but technically by rules it could be made an issue I would think by looking at current MOT section 5.4
@ Gostek
gostek best man answer this thread .

10 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 6:06 pm

Daveymeladdy

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My VIN would reveal it had an airbag, but doubt the MOt tester will know that

11 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 7:06 pm

Gostek

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Pull the bulb out you'll only get advise that srs light does not illuminate
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/manuals/m4s05000401.htm

I don't remember correctly now but it depends on vehicle some lights are going off few sec after engine start if it's working like that you're ok, well I don't fail cars where srs lights goes off when engine starts....


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12 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 15th April 2018, 7:46 pm

Daveymeladdy

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The light I have fitted to the dash is a spur from the battery light, so it goes out once engine starts

13 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 16th April 2018, 7:06 am

ROB_IOW

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Hello Mr MOT man just thought I'd give you a heads up .

The air bag light comes on because I've fitted clocks from a much newer car .
These never came with air bags .
Wouldn't want you failing it on something it doesn't have .

14 Re: Potential MOT Issues. on 16th April 2018, 9:11 am

johnboy

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Just wire in a small switch under the dash. Easier than taking the bulb out each year.

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