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1 E10 fuel? on 9th September 2018, 8:51 pm

burrows1980

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Evening all,

From what I’ve read and understand with the possible introduction of E10 fuel into the UK later this year, and on every forecourt by 2020... this will eventually effect us R owners as I see it with the removal of super unleaded to make way for the E10 fuel. The talk is larger stations that pump super will use the tanks for e10 in the switch over and keep e5 (95ron) as normal till 2020.

Further research into e10, performance figures and mpg decrease is shocking not to mention how much more it will cost to run a petrol car, although the gov will be happy with the extra cash made from increasing petrol sales!!

So for us to potentially run the R on E10, not as if I will, I’m under the impression as it’s a lower octane rating than current unleaded it would be a new ecu to be able to map the engine to a lower octane, replacement of rubber fuel hoses, fuel pump and any other seals that may be incompatible with E10.

I’ve always used super unleaded (98/99ron) so if they keep 95ron for the classic world then octane booster companies going to make a killing!

Correct me if I’m totally off track with this Laughing

Gaz

2 Re: E10 fuel? on 9th September 2018, 9:24 pm

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https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/advice/emissions/what-is-e10-fuel-and-how-could-it-affect-you/


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3 Re: E10 fuel? on 9th September 2018, 9:25 pm

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Interesting read and you are not talking rubbish mate as from what I read ...


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4 Re: E10 fuel? on 10th September 2018, 6:37 am

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Hahahahaha, welcome to the USA! strongest thing we can buy at the pumps is 93 on the east coast, and 91 octane anywhere west of the Mississippi.

E-10 is a strange fuel though.

5 Re: E10 fuel? on 10th September 2018, 8:48 am

FPSChris

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E10 petrol is cleared for use in all models with petrol engines from 1st January 2000.

We'll still be able to get E5 anyway and drop in an octane booster.

Anything that's high comp or forced induction will suffer due to low octane content.

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6 Re: E10 fuel? on 10th September 2018, 10:46 am

astarozna

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We use 10% - 15% of that thing in 95 but not in 98 at the moment. Was told by re seller that they can't get it consistent, different batches have different % of it in the mix from 5% - 15%. I'm all for the cleaner air but against bigger consumption and higher price. Switching to E85 would see you 33% increase in consumption of fuel.

7 Re: E10 fuel? on 10th September 2018, 11:04 am

Mr B

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Yeh e5 with octane booster seems best bet although only likely see 2 or 3 ron gains in real world use .
We had the gasohol 91 95 here for some time but also got good old gasaline like grandpa likes too ...
e10 is more environmental marketing nonsense, it all about making money from lower quality fuels.
No real major environmental benefit as you use more so produces much same carbon output if look at real world results plus fact service life of equipment/parts reduced you be creating more recycling waste/pollution that should be added to the equation :-O
Like most of the green schemes it complete bent logic :-S

8 Re: E10 fuel? on 11th September 2018, 10:01 am

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It's more about sustainability, a lot of the ethanol is produced in the UK meaning in theory the price could be reduced as it's grown but it will go up because "government"

Only time will tell, got a roller close to me so I can get the car on that to see the difference if it ever comes here.

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9 Re: E10 fuel? on 11th September 2018, 11:31 am

Mr B

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Can't see it as sustainable in large production fuel supply as too much volume base products and waste,
Only reason it currently popular concept is it can make money and distorts well into environmental figures . absolute no CO value in it, you offset any saving in the gasohol fuel by all the manufacture process of crops, mashing plants and waste handling.

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