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1primera gt Empty primera gt on 25th March 2015, 5:01 pm

pulsar23


always loved the primera egt and wanted to turbo or supercharge one loopy
anyone know/advice on what kind of work is involved??? also price (the killer)
cheers lads

2primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 5:30 pm

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I think they are ve lumps or older ones de lumps ....


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3primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 5:40 pm

Andy Sunny Gti

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Primera Egt
Getting rare now
All are 2.0 Sr20de engines.
Depends on the earlier ones High port SR20DE, or later one low port SR20de.
Standard 148ish bhp.

Turbo by drilling hole in bottom end section, use Gti-r turbo parts.
Quite a simple job really.
You can buy the cars for anything upto £1000 if you can find a decent one.
I can draft you up a proper list if you like.

The guys on the Almera club do this all the time on their almeras.

Not much info on the supercharge route as there is no off the shelf unit for the sr20, so you will need to go custom.

4primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 6:17 pm

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I didnt realise they were all sr20de 's andy ...... there is four on gumtree atm all under 1000gbp


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5primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 7:15 pm

joetheeskimo

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@nomad wrote:I didnt realise they were all sr20de 's andy ...... there is four on gumtree atm all under 1000gbp

Does that mean that can be used a replacement engine in the GTIR or am i wrong...I know it would need the turbo but if i have all the turbo parts surely it should be plug and play pretty much

6primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 7:17 pm

Andy Sunny Gti

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No, totally different compression..I.e pistons, rods, head, crank.

7primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 7:24 pm

joetheeskimo

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@Andy Sunny Gti wrote:No, totally different compression..I.e pistons, rods, head, crank.

That answered my question. Thanks

8primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 7:44 pm

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@Andy Sunny Gti wrote:No, totally different compression..I.e pistons, rods, head, crank.


you forgot to mention the most important difference


that's the fact that the rear of engine is not recessed to take a 4wd transferbox


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9primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 8:07 pm

Andy Sunny Gti

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But it's been done before bob.
I have seen a gtir running 4 wheel drive gearing but using an Sr20de n/a engine.
That's why I was so interested to see the Rasheen.
It's a 1.8 sr18de with 4 wheel drive transfer box.
How, please look into what it's is that connects the n/a with gtir style gearbox.



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10primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 8:10 pm

pulsar23


Is there a way round bob? Or just turbo gt engine?

11primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 8:14 pm

Garnaby

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They did make a 4wd primer a but they are imports and rare as just like the 4wd Almera! There's loads of guides on the conversion on NPOC and Almera owners club! Some run the GTIR lump!

12primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 8:18 pm

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@Andy Sunny Gti wrote:But it's been done before bob.
I have seen a gtir running wheel drive gearing but an Sr20de n/a engine.
That's why I was so interested to see the Rasheen.
It's a 1.8 sr18de with 4 wheel drive transfer box.
How, please look into what it's is that connects the n/a with gtir style gearbox.
an angle grinder normally

13primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 8:23 pm

Andy Sunny Gti

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The Nissan Rasheen is a small SUV with 4x4 capabilities produced from November 1994 to August 2000 by Nissan. It was offered with three different engines: from the original 1.5 GA15DE, to a larger 1.8 liter SR18DE, and finally a 2.0 SR20DEin the Rasheen Forza. The car has five seats and a rugged, quirky and angularly styled body. It is a very small and short 4WD that is often compared to Eastern European cars.

The Forza shown below.
Sr20De with Gtir running gear but an auto box. Wtf

primera gt Image12

14primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 8:29 pm

Garnaby

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Nissan Primera T4

https://youtu.be/UDOPlSBHpus

15primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 8:31 pm

Andy Sunny Gti

Andy Sunny Gti
But I don't think the Primera used the Gtir running gear and rear subframe like the Rasheen, correct me if I am wrong.
We are talking about interchangeable parts with the Gtir.

16primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 25th March 2015, 11:36 pm

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Yes your right with the rashiteen Andy

The White one I have is now re-assembled and back otr so driving that around na at the mo 
I'm converting the red one now which has the 1.5 4wd lump This will be the fire breathing monster that I want to get done by the summer if at all possible

The White one which is a sr1.8de which has the autobox will be getting a stock t28 bolted on and run around 300bhp (easy conversion) I'm using this as a tow vehicle for trackdays so will be pulling a bike trailer. If the autobox copes well at that power with a cooler fitted then il up the power on that one aswell to see what the autobox can handle.
To my knowledge no one has done this before with the 4wd auto combination.

I've also got a very clean sunny 2.0 GTI which il be doing something to that will make it a bit special but first I need to get one of these rashiteens finished lol


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17primera gt Empty Re: primera gt on 26th March 2015, 6:32 pm

pulsar23


So just to clarify, is it not worth it has too much work and costly?

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