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1disc and pads Empty disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 6:24 pm

pulsar23


I have standard disc's with Wilwood front 4 pot calipers and tarox drilled, grooved and vented rear discs with Red stuff pads.
Can you recommend a better front disc and pads to suit calipers? Also better rear pads as been told red stuff pads are rubbish.
Mainly road use but maybe odd track day Very Happy
cheers lads

2disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 6:34 pm

ROB_IOW

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Best improvement you can make in my opinion is size ..

Bigger discs

3disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 7:06 pm

PartyPete

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I had hi spec 4 pots on mine a while ago and whatever pads were in them were shocking, almost to the point I thought there was a problem with them! Then Johnny told me to try fitting some carbo tech pads, there not cheap! And they do make noise and dust.....but the difference they made was crazy! Instant bite, endless braking, I would recommend them to any one, but like I say there are a couple downsides..... Just a thought pal

4disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 8:30 pm

johnny gtir

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That johnny talks sense. The downsides are way out weighed by the pros in my opinion

5disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 8:39 pm

PartyPete

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@johnny gtir wrote:That johnny talks sense. The downsides are way out weighed by the pros in my opinion

Iv heard he's a shady northener Smile

6disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 9:25 pm

pulsar23


what about discs?? also will a £4.50 sump plug from ebay be ok?

7disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 9:34 pm

Mr B

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what diameter are your front discs !! as expect they not standard.
Lots of problems with weak braking can be down to automatic adjuster system not working correct on rear calipers so pads to far off the disc then you loose a lot of pedal travel just filling that gap & brakes feel awfully weak because of it.
Check whole brake system over, recon rear calipers are cheap (bigred) & even master cylinder is cheap if use the blueprint one.

8disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 9:53 pm

pulsar23


they have been recon app! Im pretty sure they are standard but will check

9disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 9:59 pm

ROB_IOW

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I had a cheap ebay sump plug in mine .   when i went to drain oil it sheered off in the sump

10disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 2nd April 2015, 10:52 pm

Mr B

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Buy a nissan one for 3.99
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NISSAN-MICRA-ALMERA-NAVARA-350Z-200SX-SUMP-DRAIN-PLUG-WASHER-SP10F-/171189199636?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item27dbabe314

11disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 6:52 am

PartyPete

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I had renault Clio sport discs on mine at the time, perfect size and fit!

12disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 8:47 am

Mr B

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the 280mm 24mm thick clio sport - scenic do fit the 280mm wilwood 4pot kit.
Not sure OP got the 280mm kit or just midilites on standard R discs by his comment on first post, if he measures disc he will know.
clio discs can be found easily & even some decent grooved discs on eBay.

13disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 1:32 pm

pulsar23


ok cheers lads

14disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 2:23 pm

pulsar23


@PartyPete wrote:I had renault Clio sport discs on mine at the time, perfect size and fit!

had a look at these and do seem to be the only one's that do lol
front are 280mm (not standard duh) but they are 250mm on the rear.
pads on the front dont cover the whole disc tho? The carbo tech pads look good, but alot of money!!

15disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 3:28 pm

PartyPete

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Trust me they are worth every pennie!!

16disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 3:57 pm

Mr B

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I had 280mm clio discs & 2pot evo style calipers which cost next to nothing back when done it, went carbotech with them & difference is huge, not the best though if not doing a bit of track as noise & dust not great if 99% road driving.

17disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 5:08 pm

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@Mr B wrote:I had 280mm clio discs & 2pot evo style calipers which cost next to nothing back when done it, went carbotech with them & difference is huge, not the best though if not doing a bit of track as noise & dust not great if 99% road driving.
Think i will go down the evo caliper route when i come to change my brakes.


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18disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 8:29 pm

pulsar23


Yeah be more road use. Whats the next best thing?

19disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 3rd April 2015, 9:53 pm

johnny gtir

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Carbotec cp8 rather than cp10.which were your ones Mr B
I ain't had any pad come close I just use cp8

20disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 4th April 2015, 12:37 am

Mr B

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@johnny gtir wrote:Carbotec  cp8 rather than cp10.which were your ones Mr B
I ain't had any pad come close I just use cp8
xp8 what I used. made the evo 2 pots worthwhile fitting.

21disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 4th April 2015, 12:39 am

Mr B

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@pulsar23 wrote:Yeah be more road use. Whats the next best thing?
quite like mintex 1144 for road but can squeal a bit, expect others can recommend better.

22disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 5th August 2015, 9:55 pm

pulsar23


what is the best standard disc as if i fit clio ones they will need some playing about with??

23disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 5th August 2015, 10:06 pm

Mr B

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If you have the 280mm willwood brake kit then the clio sports discs are same measurement as willwood supplied ones. just buy half decent brand & plain or with a max of 6 grooves & no drillings, drilled & smaller discs with loads of grooves can be awful in terms of braking & durability & noise.

24disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 6th August 2015, 11:20 am

houghy_1


I've just bought some Clio 182 discs for my 280 wilwood set.  
Brembo HC discs,fit perfect except the disc is about 1mm offset from dead centre. Apart from that it's a perfect match. I got these...


http://www.kamracing.co.uk/car-tuning/renault/renault-clio-mk2/brakes/brake-discs/brembo-hc-front-brake-discs-renault-clio-mk2-rs-172-182-2-0-16v.html

£44 delivered.

And then also these Mintex 1144, £77 delivered.


http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=562_792_798&products_id=14581

Hope that helps.

25disc and pads Empty Re: disc and pads on 6th August 2015, 1:39 pm

pulsar23


Dont you need to faff about with clio ones?

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