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D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension

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1D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 9th January 2016, 3:22 pm

Bandyleg

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Hey guys, Just wondering on opinions.. Car currently has fully adjustable Tien suspension on it.. I also have a rear set of D2's pictured below,

So its a question of selling the tiens or the d2's but i just dont know!!

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Mr B

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sell d2's .
you not got full d2 set then !?

Bandyleg

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@Mr B wrote:sell d2's .
you not got full d2 set then !?

Nah just got the two rears, come with the car when i bought it, the guy was gonna put d2's on it as he didnt like tiens....

If I sell these it will just put money towards my rebuild. bounce015

Mr B

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d2's probably worse than tiens pending on what model tiens you got. most of coilovers have same issues unless spend some effort on ordering better rate springs & setting heights etc at sensible range.

Bandyleg

Bandyleg
I will be taking it to get set up correctly to be honest. Engines I can get my head round but suspension I cant even get my air shock right on mountain bike Smile

gtir_woody

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Agreed ^ Depending on the model of Teins you have I would be getting rid of the D2's. Do the Teins have the height adjustable lower mounts like the D2's? or post some pics of them Smile

Bandyleg

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Bit late in the evening for pics... Been out on the bike and walking the pooches. Anyways the Tiens are fully adjustable and they have top mount adjusters as well for the angle of the shock. I will try and get some decent pictures together as the car has quite a bit done to it, I just need to figure out exactly what.

So I guess the last question is anyone want some D2's Laughing

gtir_woody

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The teins sound like the newer model ones so good choice Smile



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9D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 10th January 2016, 10:49 pm

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Yeah as the older ones cannot be rebuilt if i remember right....


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10D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 10th January 2016, 10:52 pm

gtir_woody

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^ The older ones without the height adjustable mounts?

11D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 10th January 2016, 11:07 pm

nomad

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Im not sure woody i just remember the older tiens cannot be rebuilt ... as my son in law tried to get hes rebuilt and couldnt ...


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12D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 10th January 2016, 11:15 pm

gtir_woody

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Yeah not sure either. I think these are similar to the ones im thinking about that don't have the adjustable mounts. I had similar on my R when I brought it and they were quite old.

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13D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 12:00 am

mc_hawkings24


Not sure but do you mean tein superstreets?

14D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 9:55 am

Bandyleg

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I think I best get some pics of these shocks. Ill see what I can do tonight after work. Excuse my ignorance on this but I assume the pic you uploaded Woody is a front shock.. Not had mine apart and no point me trying to compare to the wrong strut lol

15D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 9:58 am

gtir_woody

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Im pretty sure its the front one but not from a gtir mate, they will look similar, I just wanted to use the photo to show what I thought was the older model teins Smile

16D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 10:32 am

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A lot of the teins I see for the R have the helper springs. Some are HA some are super street there are quite a few variants.


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17D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 11:10 am

Bandyleg

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Well I think im gonna have to do some digging, I hate not knowing what's on my car. I guess in time I will know all.

Thanks for all the info and as I say I will try get those images tonight.

18D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 12:46 pm

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Tein superstreets as far as im aware are single spring these are the later versions made for road and track but other more track orientated sets are available which have different codes / numbers.
The Tein HA series (predecessor to superstreets) were fitted with a helper spring and were mainly designed for track use only.

They imo are all better than D2 which are about as bad as you can get with build quality and aftermarket back up which is why we chose to be agents for BC coilovers as their customer back is good and their product is better made than the others of similar price range on the market.
We have sold many sets and from feedback everyone appears to be happy with what they have bought and as of yet we have not had one comeback with a faulty item being sent.

So in a nutshell I would keep the Teins if they are all good and ditch the d2s


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19D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 1:59 pm

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I have tein superstreet and they stopped making them in 2008 according to the tein rep. I had one rebuilt at £235 2months ago but i had a new piston at £40 and £40 of extras, bumpstop, bootcover, shim and new spring seat. Probably get it down to £150 a piece if its just seals that need changing.

20D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 5:06 pm

Bandyleg

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affraid Holy Hell at that price you may as well almost buy bloody new!! That's crazy cash money dude especially for something that's not made anymore! Im glad I started asking questions..

Now where did I put my camera thinking

21D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 5:21 pm

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Thats the joy having anything japanese you can always triple the price ...


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22D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 5:26 pm

Bandyleg

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@GTI-R US wrote:
They imo are all better than D2 which are about as bad as you can get with build quality and aftermarket back up which is why we chose to be agents for BC coilovers as their customer back is good and their product is better made than the others of similar price range on the market.
We have sold many sets and from feedback everyone appears to be happy with what they have bought and as of yet we have not had one comeback with a faulty item being sent.

Just had a look at the cost of the BC coil overs and surprisingly not badly priced at all, in-fact if I had to rebuild the tiens at that price I would actually be able to afford a set of the BC and a full suspension bloody set up (Depending on the model of BC's)

23D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 5:32 pm

Bandyleg

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@nomad wrote:Thats the joy having anything japanese  you can always triple the price ...

IM not sure how true this is... If you own a newish German motor then your wallet may as well be left at the counter of the local dealership along with the title deeds to your house. Ive always found jap parts reasonable but model dependent. The shocks really aint (Jap) they are Tien and its Tien that make up the re build prices, Parts, Labor, consumables.. it adds up. but it does start to show why the world is becoming a throw away society when its cheaper to buy new than it is to repair/rebuild.

24D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 6:06 pm

nomad

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Well i own both and to be honest parts for german parts are a lot cheaper as i do all the work myself ....


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25D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension  Empty Re: D2 Race suspension VS Tien race suspension on 11th January 2016, 7:08 pm

mc_hawkings24


My teins looked very new when the car came here last year and was surprised when i rang up that they were old. As mine were good rather than buy chinese i'd rebuild the teins.

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