26 Re: CRB or something else? on 15th November 2016, 2:26 pm
27 Re: CRB or something else? on 15th November 2016, 3:15 pm
the kit even came with an alignment tool and pilot bearing!
28 Re: CRB or something else? on 16th November 2016, 12:14 pm
sounds like they on the ball, being jap bearing it should be fine .
stage 2 cc gives quite a heavy pedal as cover is heavy sprung as organic lining, i prefer the stage 3 cc, stage 2 to 4 sprung hub type are all good kits though .
29 Re: CRB or something else? on 17th November 2016, 8:20 pm
So two questions now...how long might the input bearing last for and can it be replaced without removing the box AGAIN? I saw a how to on the OC instructing you to lower the box+engine down and to pull the end casing off the box to expose the innards. Can the bearings and seal be changed after doing that? Allegedly you can get to that stage within a couple of hours...
Cheers again guys
30 Re: CRB or something else? on 17th November 2016, 8:26 pm
31 Re: CRB or something else? on 17th November 2016, 8:49 pm
Id get em changed soon as,
32 Re: CRB or something else? on 17th November 2016, 11:08 pm
I'll update tomorrow night, cheers guys
33 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 9:02 am
What noise is now present ?
Bit inconvenient refitting box if bearings indeed overly noisy, did they check input float/axial & radial play as that easy with dial gauge and even by hand you get a feel if it well off.
What fluid used in box ? what condition of old oil and debris in he oil ?
34 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 9:56 am
35 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 10:30 am
36 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 10:52 am
The stiff gears issue has been resolved now and clutch is working fine. The bearing noise is still there though. The noise seems to be slightly worse when everything is cold too. The noise disappears when you apply some pressure to the clutch; doesn't have to be fully depressed.
I honestly don't know if they checked it while the box was off the car or not but I DID ask them to. Anything with a rough/noisy bearing I've dealt with in the past you could either feel by hand or hear so im guessing they just changed the clutch and then realised it was the box to fault afterwards?! b@$tards!
I must admit that I was wondering how they diagnosed it as being the clutch before any work started but thought they knew best.
If I can't get an arrangement made with the garage then I think i'll be going for that refurbed box off gumtree and (hopefully) get it fitted by that guy too
I'm really not impressed though. If they'd told me about the issue when the box was off I could've got another fresher one and got them to put that in instead; saving me the labour of another box change
37 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 11:51 am
Normal practice at minimum test input shaft buy hand and more so as asked for it be reviewed .
Does noise go away totally when clutch full depressed and car parked and running and returns as soon as clutch released !
38 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 11:59 am
yeah, noise disappears when clutch fully depressed
39 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 12:02 pm
40 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 12:17 pm
as cosmic said they let you down really .
No idea what refurb box is on gumtree but wouldn't go that route myself really.
Good effort box refurb soon spends £350+ in parts alone. needs be done right and in some ways you best reviewing your gearset before swapping to something that possibly worse.
The R box is easy work on and set up really so just need good fussy builder .
Your garage likely much cheaper if had pull box again .
41 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 12:27 pm
42 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 12:42 pm
"There’s a `Y’ shaped support bracket underneath the inlet manifold which (I believe) has to come off to get access to some transfer case (?) bolts.
IF you do need to remove this bracket, please throw it in the bin, it just gets in the way of everything behind the engine and is a b@ll ache to remove & refit.
While the gearbox is off can you give it a quick once over to make sure the input shaft bearing is ok and there’s nothing obvious wrong or away to go wrong with it? I’m sure you guys will do this anyway"
As well as refitting the noisy gearbox, they also left the 'Y' bracket on too
43 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 12:57 pm
Don't be fooled by performance garages again at least half just means a bigger bill at the end
44 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 1:58 pm
unfortunately that is very true, performance garages sometimes just means guy better at the chat and billing :-/
You got be on ball and deal face to face really.
Gearbox ia actually easier rebuild at home than the engine and any competent home wrench can tackle it easily and many will do better than your average gearbox shops .
How you tackle gearbox is up to you and your circumstances but I wouldn't buy any used gearbox for £500 without seeing it personally with end casing off. most these days are good for spares or rebuild but lucky find one worth bolting straight in a car .
If your gearset in good condition you better putting £500 towards rebuild.
As garage fooked up I think they should remove it for free ... won't take him long now he lost his R box cherry :-)
45 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 6:34 pm
Download the gearbox workshop manual, go through it step by step, take your time and ask us for any advice.
We've covered a quite a few rebuilds now so theres lots of expert knowledge.
However you will need a bearing puller, a bearing press (and a dial indicator if its just your input bearings).
If your just not confident or dont have the time/tools then someone on the forums might help you. If you were closer to the Midlands i would.
46 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 6:53 pm
A bit of positive news from the garage though (after allegedly not even seeing my email!). They agree the box is noisy and without admitting it in so many words are going accept limited liability. They said they would work out a deal for me to swap the box out. When I mentioned the gumtree deal they said they wouldn't do anything with the box itself but would also swap it for £250 assuming I deal with sourcing the replacement. Not great but at least it's not going to be another 800 quid to swap it. I just have to find a replacement now as I sincerely doubt anyone around here has any experience with shitter gearboxes!
Suggestions on the back of a SAE envelope please
47 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 7:38 pm
If you can live without it for a few weeks you could courier it to me and ill replace the input bearing(s) and seal for you.
48 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 7:59 pm
49 Re: CRB or something else? on 18th November 2016, 8:14 pm
50 Re: CRB or something else? on 19th November 2016, 1:48 pm
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